Les Martin de Bob Dylan

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room135
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    room135
    le 26 Fév 2007, 22:07
Qui pourrait me resseigner sur quelles Martin a joué Bob Dylan tout au long (ou en parti) de sa longue carriére.
Les albums des années 60 et debut 70 ça sonne cow-boy a souhait mais je n'arrive pas a identifier de quel type de Martin il s'agit. Je sais qu'a un momment il a joué sur une J200 Gibson mais ici s'arréte mes connaissance Dylanesque, qq connait-il avec prescison sur quel model joue Bobby?
Merci
Baguette
La J200 c'est uniquement pour la photo de Nashville Skyline (1969).
Ses premiers enregistrements c'est une 00-17 post war(tout acajou).
Après c'est surtout la Gibson Nick Lucas.
parispal
a part traduire l'article, je ne peux pas faire mieux!

DylanChords est LA référence sur sa Bobness. Toutes les partoches, de toutes les versions de toutes les chansons!

La partie consacrée aux guitares

His first guitar, which he played in his coffeehouse days, was a Martin 1949 00-17. He acquired it in 1959, when he first moved to Minneapolis.


At the Johnny Cash Show he's playing a Martin Triple-0 18:


Blood on the Tracks:


room135
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    room135
    le 27 Fév 2007, 14:13
Ok merci je vais étudier cela de prét... i'm feel like knocking at the heaven's door...
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room135 a écrit :
Ok merci je vais étudier cela de prét... i'm feel like knocking at the heaven's door...


T'es tout près du paradis, en effet ;-)
zicotron
pendant qu'on y est, qqu'un sait-il sur quoi il joue sur l'album "subterranean homesick blues"?
merci
parispal
zicotron a écrit :
pendant qu'on y est, qqu'un sait-il sur quoi il joue sur l'album "subterranean homesick blues"?
merci


Le titre exact de l'album est "Bringing it all back home"

The Gibson Nick Lucas Special

This was the main acoustic guitar that he used in concert from late '63 through '66, and which can be heard on Another Side of Bob Dylan and Bringing it All Back Home.

He had bought it from Marc Silber who ran the shop Fretted Instruments in NYC:

I didn’t really see him too much after that, although I sold him a couple of guitars along the way during the ’60s. That 1930s Gibson Nick Lucas Special he played in “Don’t Look Back” had belonged to my sister. It was in mint condition when I sold it to him, but it got a little wrecked. He had that guitar for a long time. Later, probably in the early ’70s, I drove up to Woodstock to sell him a really nice late-’60s Martin. He was a tough guy to do business with, though, because he didn’t have any idea what the guitars were worth. [read the full story]

Paul Hostetter gives another version of the same story:

This guitar was sold to Bob Dylan by my friend Marc Silber at his shop, sometime in 1963. It replaced Dylan's old Gibson J-50, which was lost in action. It's a 13-fret Nick Lucas that had been refinished blonde, and had had a Guild type bridge and a Martin-type pickguard put on. It had earlier belonged to Marc's sister Julie. Marc and Julie and their family are old friends of mine from Detroit, and I knew this guitar before Marc sold it to Dylan.

In January of 1964 I saw Dylan perform in Denver, and he played this guitar. He stopped by the Folklore Center (where I worked then) after-hours the next day, and he told me that the J-50 had gone missing, but I never connected the fact that the new guitar was Julie's old Nick Lucas. I wonder where it is now. [full story]

When the guitar was rebuilt, it was blonde instead of sunburst, and supposedly had a Martin pickguard and a Guild bridge. A reliable account of the story has it that the guitar was rebuilt already before Dylan bought it.

Then “it got a little wrecked,” as Silber says. Reportedly because Dylan put a lot of harps on top of it in his case and the front caved in. DON'T DO THAT! Apparently, this happened upon arrival in Australia during the 1966 tour. Phillip T. Pascoe told me:

Happened on arrival in Melbourne, Australia in '66. He borrowed a really nice guitar made by a local luthier & played it on the rest of his “Australian” tour in Adelaide & Perth, while the Nick Lucas was being repaired.

The one he borrowed went on sale in a little guitar shop in Melbourne for $500.00. I went by that store after school every day for a couple of weeks and dreamed up ways of coming up with that kind of money (impossible when you're 18 years old). He had only played 4 concerts but that sucker had flat pick scratches all across the face. I'd watched him play it and man he flat picked from the elbow not the wrist.

The Nick Lucas is often referred to as a 1929 model. Marc Silber refers to it as a 1930s model. According to Paul Hostetter, the 13-fret guitars were all pretty much from 1933, so that's probably the safest bet.

Here's a site dedicated to the Nick Lucas Special in general, and here's some more info on Dylan's exemplar (although the guitar in the picture is the 12-fret version, and not the 13-fret version that Dylan had).
youlix42
dylan n'a pas joué que sur martin
il a notament essaillé le son ovation, gibson, et guild
room135
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Pas mal la gibson

En ce moment sur guitare acoustique et électro et Martin...