Le prochain album, Casualties of cool, risque de ne pas plaire à tout le monde :
"I guess the best way to describe it would be this really quiet, really dark, really folky sort of outer space JOHNNY CASH vibe. And there's a lady singing on it, a friend of mine from Vancouver who's got this unbelievably detached sort of bluesy voice. And the drummer on it is this Swedish cat named Morgan Ågren, who had played with Fredrik Thordendal and Zappa and a bunch of things. So his technical prowess is just so far above and beyond what this type of music requires that what he's managed to come up with is just really, really creative."