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The Trout
Oui c'est bien de faire ce qu'il a fait et ça doit être bien pénible quand même d'être obligé de limite se justifier alors que tout le monde sait que le seul fautif est Mason.

Bon sinon, pour les nostalgiques de cette fabuleuse boite de pédales boutique, il reste visiblement du stock chez Haar
“The type of cap is not as important as the value of the cap, for guitar. In an Amp, your cap type is much more important, as the signal is being passed through the cap all the time. In a guitar, you’re not hearing the cap itself, you’re hearing what the cap is impeding”. Lindy Fralin
FMF
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    FMF
    le 08 Sep 2014, 01:38
Très classe la réaction de Landau.

A votre avis, quel genre de mod a du faire Mason sur sa Cry Baby?
"Wheeeheeea!" - M. Jackson
The Trout
Le sticker déjà, ça on est sûr.
“The type of cap is not as important as the value of the cap, for guitar. In an Amp, your cap type is much more important, as the signal is being passed through the cap all the time. In a guitar, you’re not hearing the cap itself, you’re hearing what the cap is impeding”. Lindy Fralin
Le landau chorus vertex va devenir collector ;-)
tguyfr
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Je profite de la réouverture du topic que j'avais ouvert pour faire découvrir la marque pour tenir une promesse faite à Jumi lors de nos vifs échanges : reconnaitre publiquement que j'avais tort au sujet du travail de Mason et que j'ai été manipulé. Pour ceux qui s'inquiéteraient de ma naïveté, je précise quand même que j'ai d'abord fait confiance aux vendeurs, comme LA Vintage Gear, qui m'avait vendu l'Axis "avec composants NOS" (j'ai encore le mail de Clif, grand pote de Landau), ou les promoteurs officiels comme Marsa de HRI, sans compter les artistes... Quand ce premier cercle a lâché Vertex, j'ai compris que Mason avait décidément fait avaler pas mal de couleuvres. Cela dit, j'estime toujours que le son des pédales est excellent. C'est vraiment débile de flinguer sa boite comme ça. Évidemment, je ne soutiendrai plus Vertex à l'avenir.
benoi31
Citation:
Je profite de la réouverture du topic que j'avais ouvert pour faire découvrir la marque pour tenir une promesse faite à Jumi lors de nos vifs échanges : reconnaitre publiquement que j'avais tort au sujet du travail de Mason et que j'ai été manipulé. Pour ceux qui s'inquiéteraient de ma naïveté, je précise quand même que j'ai d'abord fait confiance aux vendeurs, comme LA Vintage Gear, qui m'avait vendu l'Axis "avec composants NOS" (j'ai encore le mail de Clif, grand pote de Landau), ou les promoteurs officiels comme Marsa de HRI, sans compter les artistes... Quand ce premier cercle a lâché Vertex, j'ai compris que Mason avait décidément fait avaler pas mal de couleuvres. Cela dit, j'estime toujours que le son des pédales est excellent. C'est vraiment débile de flinguer sa boite comme ça. Évidemment, je ne soutiendrai plus Vertex à l'avenir.



Ca doit pas être facile d'être victime de ce genre de coup bas, surtout de la part de vendeurs / marques dans lesquelles on a confiance.
Et comme dit l'adage, "il n'y a que les imbéciles qui ne changent pas d'avis"

Citation:
Mason a aussi fait ses aveux via facebook..

https://www.facebook.com/verte(...)525:0


"Ce contenu est actuellement indisponible"
J'ai pas accès moi depuis mon ordinateur.

Vous savez s'il va y avoir un procès ?
Je veux dire, un foutage de gueule comme ça c'est quand même pas tolérable non ?
J ai pas facebook quelqu un peut faire un copier coller ? Curieux de voir la défense du cahuzac de la pedale lol
krunozor
Voilà:

Dear Vertex community,

I wanted to make both my fans and customers aware of the following information about the Axis Wah and other Vertex products. Please feel free to contact me at anytime:
http://www.thegearpage.net/boa(...)77492

Dear internet community, musicians, artists, and dealers,

I am here to be completely honest and forthcoming about everything that has occurred over the past two months with my company, without the help from any marketer or PR representative and write to you directly from the heart.

I had a conversation yesterday with a friend of mine, who is also a member on many of the forums which Vertex has been the topic of discussion. He too is a small business owner, and has had first hand experience in dealing with a business that had to address issues of integrity. He told me a story about a former employee who plagiarized years worth of articles in his magazine, got caught, and continued to lie about where the articles were taken from. Even when confronted with the evidence, this person was not capable of telling the truth, and just could not face the reality of his actions. When hearing this, I saw myself, and realized, “I’m that guy!”

I’ve yet to listen to my own heart. I ignored the voice of my higher power and allowed my ego to dictate my response instead of speaking the truth. I am here to set the record straight about me and my company, no matter the consequences:

Me (Mason Marangella)

I did go to the University of California, Berkeley and graduated with a BA in Sociology and a minor in Education. I do not have a degree in electrical engineering and did not clearly represent this to my customers, dealers, and artists. Although I have many skills of my own as an electronic designer, I’m not nearly as skilled as the engineers that have been supporting me in developing the Vertex products.

Ken Volpe

Ken has been a long time friend who has great sales experience, and offered his help in finding new dealers for Vertex products and supporting dealer relationships. He has only been working with Vertex since April of this year.

Ken had no idea what was going on with the Axis Wah, nor did I make him aware of what the product was in any way. Any information that he passed on to dealers was based solely on what I told him. His involvement in the company was strictly to work with dealers and be a representative; however, in light of the Axis Wah controversy he started to defend me, believing me when I said the things that were being written about me and Vertex on the forums were untrue. He is my friend, and wanted to support me, and I let him down by not clearly telling him the truth and allowing him to separate himself from the company before he became implicated in the Axis Wah controversy.

Michael Landau

Michael Landau and Vertex are parting ways, and both of his signature products, the Landau Boost and Landau Chorus, will no longer be produced after this final run releases this month.

Michael Landau has been instrumental in helping me grow my business and develop products over the last several years. He’s been incredibly generous with his time, guidance, and friendship to me, and I am forever grateful.

He trusted me with his name and allowed me the opportunity to do two signature products with him. I damaged his trust, our business relationship, and our friendship by my choice to market and sell a rebranded product in the Axis Wah, which ultimately damaged the credibility of my company and called into question the validity of his signature products despite being one of a kind, unique products.

I know that Michael and I both believe in the quality and sound of the products that we created together- they are incredible. However, I understand that being associated with me and Vertex calls into question his integrity, and this is certainly not what Michael signed on for, and in no way does he deserve to have his name disparaged on account of my actions.

I will always consider Michael to be a friend and wish him nothing but the best. He has inspired me in so many ways since I was a 6 years old: listening to his rich ambient guitar tones on James Taylor’s “New Moon Shine” cassette tape that my parents would play in their old Nissan Sentra with my brother and I in the back seat. As I developed as a guitar player and listener of music, I got into Michael’s solo career and the rest was history. I can’t go a week without listening to something that Michael has played on. It’s truly been a privilege and an honor to work with Michael over the last few year and have been some of the most memorable experiences of my life.

Donations

I donate my time and money (from proceeds from Vertex sales) to two Title I public schools in Oakland, CA. At ASCEND Elementary school, I helped run their weekly morning music program with two other teachers at the school. I was there a few hours each week, to help run the only musical enrichment that these elementary students got all week due to lack of funding and budgetary restrictions. I plan to continue for this school year as students settle into the “back-to-school” routine and we resume the program (typically the 2nd or 3rd week of school).

At the second school, Berkley Maynard Academy, I use proceeds from the sale of Vertex products (except the Landau Chorus where Michael Landau chose his own charity to donate) to pay for school supplies for teachers and students, and fieldtrips for families that cannot afford it. I have attached a copy of a check that I wrote for the 5th grade camping trip an an example, however several other donations were provided of the last few years. This money was used to pay for students whose families could not afford to send them away on an overnight trip and have an experience in the California wilderness.

Vertex Axis Wah

The Axis Wah is a rebranded BBE Ben Wah. The following things were changed: LED, Bottom Plate, Rubber Footpad, control knob, faceplate, and Wah pot on the NOS version only (changed to a different 100K S-taper pot). The silk screening was removed from the enclosures as was the metal emblem riveted into the top of the footpad. We would adjust the pot to give the wah a more full-range sweep, but this could have also been done by the customer themselves. All of the aesthetic changes and parts manufactured for the changes were done in California, except for the Wah pot on the NOS Wah that was sourced in the USA, but likely from Taiwan or China.

I got a hold of a BBE Wah pedals several years ago and found them to be really great examples of the vintage Vox tone, but looked awful. I was working on a wah of my own at the time, but needed more time and money to develop it, and thought that this would be a good springboard to get a wah product out there to help launch my future wah down the road. I experimented with a few different changes (above) to improve the aesthetics and make it look classy, and it became my best selling product. As much as I wanted to continue to develop my own Wah design, the Axis Wah seemed to pick up more and more traction each month and would push my own design efforts back. My idea was that I would just clear out my existing inventory of Axis Wahs, but this never happened. The product was selling well, customers liked it, and I was too oblivious to admit or acknowledge that I was selling a lie.

Vertex Volume Pedals

This was manufactured as described on the website and in the manual.

Website: https://www.vertexeffects.com/(...)pedal

Manual: https://www.vertexeffects.com/(...)o.pdf

I do state that is based on a Boss FV-500 platform and that this product is a modification. There is also the words “modified in the USA” on the front of the volume pedal. The modifications require getting rid of components that aren’t necessary and as a result hurt the tone. However, the result of the modification is significant, and creates an appreciable difference between a stock Boss Volume pedal and the modified version. I am sure I am not the first to figure this modification out, but to my knowledge nobody was offering this to the public and after I did a few modifications for various artists, I got emails from clients requesting it which was the reason for releasing this as a product item.

Vertex Cables

We buy our cable from Belden, it is made in the USA. The sleeving of the cables, termination, soldering and all assembly of the cables from there all happens in house. We terminate with high quality Neutrik end (European versions, not the Chinese Rean versions) and place two layers of heat shrink around the ends so that they connectors don’t come loose and also protect the cable as best as possible. They are not directional in shielding as a twisted pair shielded cable is. They are coax cables. I offer a lifetime warranty on them.

I experimented with many cables and found this one to be the best of even the most expensive boutique brands when put in the context of a pedalboard and multiple types of amplifiers (both clean and high gain) and different pickup outputs (both single coil and humbucking). This was also true of all testing and comparing we did with multiple artists and customers. When I was experimenting with different cables in effort to spec my own (which never happened once I started sourcing from Belden), I noticed the Pete Cornish was also using a Belden mic cable for his instrument cables. I justified to myself that Pete was a respected figure in the industry and his cables sounded great, why couldn’t I do the same for a cable that I found to be superior for my purposes.

This justification however, did not make statements about my cables any more accurate. The bottom line is that it is my responsibility to represent my products exactly as they are, and I did not, and I should have laid out this information for customers to make a fully informed choice.

Landau Chorus

This was marketed as exactly what it was, we do match this product to Michael Landau’s trusty old SCH-1, there are many changes, and requires incredibly invasive re-work, however Michael stipulated that he wanted the product to remain in this enclosure as part of the signature product instead of doing a new PCB and putting into a standard Vertex enclosure. Landau has always spoken highly of this product and agrees that it matches his original Arion Chorus.

Landau Boost

This product was marketed exactly as described. It is fully transparent, no color to your sound, and was developed with Michael Landau’s supervision. It is a great product, and has functions that no other other Boost possesses in addition to not adding any change to your tone, just whatever you have, but made louder. To my knowledge this product shares no similarities with other existing Boost pedals, and we used part of the design ideas in the output buffers used on the pedalboard systems that I built to help create the colorless boost function of this product. We also use a similar idea found in our dual buffer pedalboard systems to isolate the impedance of the Volume/EXP function that can be connected to the Boost.

Landau has commented and would continue to agree that his product sounds great, and does exactly what is advertised.

Vertex Boost

This product was marketed exactly as described. It is fully transparent and adds no color to your sound. It was developed off of the Boost that Michael Landau oversaw in the Landau Boost and shares the same overall PCB with a few changes in functionality. The boost circuitry is identical in both boosts, but the Vertex Boost offers a few extra functions, being able to use the Boost as a volume control when the Boost is in bypass. It is a great product, and has functions that no other Boost possesses in addition to not adding any change to your tone, just whatever you have, but made louder. To my knowledge this product shares no similarities with other existing Boost pedals, and we used part of the design ideas in the output buffers used on the pedalboard systems that I built to help create the colorless boost function of this product. We also use a similar idea in our buffers to isolate the impedance of the Volume/EXP function that can be connected to the Boost.

Summary

I was dishonest in the marketing of the Axis Wah. As a businessman I have an obligation to fully disclose the nature of my products to my customers and I did not. On top of it, I lied when questions arose about the origin of the product and didn’t identify the Axis Wah as a rebranded pedal. I dishonored my friends, allies, customers, artists, and family by not disclosing this, and moreover by not being culpable immediately once these facts were apparent. My fears and insecurities as a human being and how it would impact me trumped the necessity to be honest and truthful. I have no excuse.

This has been something that I’ve struggled with my entire life, and I feel that God, The Universe, Karma, or whatever dogma you subscribe to has been trying to tell me to “WAKE UP”,and it has taken something as momentous as this for me to finally “get it”.

It is truly the most difficult experience that I have had in my life, but has also taught me the most important lesson in my life: there is no gray area in the truth. You are either 100% truthful or you are not, there is nothing in between. There isn’t always immediate gratification in the truth, sometimes it sucks, and sometimes things don’t get better right away, or at all, but standing in the space of honesty and truth is the only place where I can be free.

Moving Forward

I will work tirelessly to make customers who purchased the Axis Wah whole again. It is going to be a long and arduous process. I’m working now on securing funding so that I can begin offering refunds to customers that purchased the Axis Wah, as there was no integrity behind the sale of this product. I fully recognize that I need to seek guidance and do some intensive work on myself and really get to the core of my behavior and how I can address this problem I have moving forward. All I ask is for time and your patience in getting money back to Axis Wah owners.

If you are an owner of the Vertex cable(s), please also feel free to contact me as I did not describe that my supplier was Belden, the cable was a coax, and misrepresented the directional functionality of the cable as a result of not being twisted pair shielded.

My contact information is below:

Phone: 510-863-0612
Email: mason@vertexeffects.com
Skype: vertexeffects

Sincerely,

Mason Marangella
nabstud
Donc ceux qui ont acheté l axis peuvent se faire rembourser ?
olivier064
nabstud a écrit :
Donc ceux qui ont acheté l axis peuvent se faire rembourser ?


Ouais mais faudra être "patient" à ce que j'ai compris
"The Dude Abides!"

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Erix29
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Il enverra un stickers BBE pour que tu puisse la revendre un jour
nabstud
Erix29 a écrit :
Il enverra un stickers BBE pour que tu puisse la revendre un jour


Très drôle
nabstud
olivier064 a écrit :
nabstud a écrit :
Donc ceux qui ont acheté l axis peuvent se faire rembourser ?


Ouais mais faudra être "patient" à ce que j'ai compris


Oui ça j'imagine !
Sur le principe je trouve ça cool ...
A voir si il tiendra sa promesse
benoi31
Oh il va me faire pleurer avec son passage sur les dons aux associations caritatives... (et puis scanner son chèque de 1000 dolls pour se justifier... Ca fait quoi, 3/4 wah ?)
Quand à son argument "La BBE a un super son, mais elle est moche, on n'a qu'à la refaire plus propre", je comprends, mais ça ne justifie pas une hausse de tarif de 200 dollars !
Quand à prétendre des wah "NOS" en changeant un composant, c'est quand même grave quoi...

Pour le remboursement, ça me parait être un grand minimum, et il s'en tire bien car tous les utilisateurs vont pas le demander...
ZePot
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    ZePot
    le 08 Sep 2014, 14:25
tguyfr a écrit :
Je profite de la réouverture du topic que j'avais ouvert pour faire découvrir la marque pour tenir une promesse faite à Jumi lors de nos vifs échanges : reconnaitre publiquement que j'avais tort au sujet du travail de Mason et que j'ai été manipulé. Pour ceux qui s'inquiéteraient de ma naïveté, je précise quand même que j'ai d'abord fait confiance aux vendeurs, comme LA Vintage Gear, qui m'avait vendu l'Axis "avec composants NOS" (j'ai encore le mail de Clif, grand pote de Landau), ou les promoteurs officiels comme Marsa de HRI, sans compter les artistes... Quand ce premier cercle a lâché Vertex, j'ai compris que Mason avait décidément fait avaler pas mal de couleuvres. Cela dit, j'estime toujours que le son des pédales est excellent. C'est vraiment débile de flinguer sa boite comme ça. Évidemment, je ne soutiendrai plus Vertex à l'avenir.


Tu vas un peu vite en besogne. Pour l'instant je ne vois que des suppositions, pas de faits... Ce serait dommage de couler une marque sur la base de simples rumeurs... J'ai eu Mason au téléphone il y a cinq minutes, grosse baisse de prix sur l'Axis wah, il me propose une réduc en cas d'achat groupé par les participants de ce topic. Ce serait dommage de rater une pareille occase... Je précise que je n'ai aucune relation commerciale avec Vertex...

En ce moment sur effet guitare...