Les Modifications De Pédales

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Petite question concernant la shredmaster.
Quels condo seraient ils intéressant de changer et pourquoi ?
(je parle pas de valeur, mais de type de condo).

Voila le schéma:
Vends Seymour Duncan SM-3 et Méca grover
Starfucker Inc.
la DS2 demandée par tout le monde:

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he function of D14-15 is pretty unclear to me, they don't add clipping nor affect the volume or tone, so I just keep them in. D11-12 have the biggest effect on the distortion, you really hear the difference when you use a LED or silicon/germanium diode here. D8-9 have the least effect, I mean, you do hear the difference, but it doesn't really change the overall tone, the effect blends in with D11-12.
I use a Germanium in D8, D9 is standard, D11 standard and D12 a 5mm red Led. This gives me an awesome cruchy distortion, and with the neck pickup and dist to full even fuzzy disortion, it's really cool.
But the best thing is when you totally turn down the dist and volume way up, it makes my amp sound like it's on volume 10 except it's on 2.

I took some time to take appart the tonesection, and found out that it does a lot more than only cutting or boosting trebble.
R45: (4.7K) The lower you go, the more bass it cuts in total. You can't go further than bypassing it.
R46: (33K) The higher you go, the more thump you get when the gain is at 2'o clock. So if you like medium gain, make this 100K or something in that area.
R58: (15K) The higher you go, the more upper bass you get, but you lose a fair bit of volume this way. Leaving it standard prooved to sound the best.
R59: (1K) This is the bitch. The higher you go, the less blistering the trebble gets. I needed to take this part out to satisfy my needs.
You can also put a cap parallel to R46 to be able to cut more, something like 3.3nF has a pretty good result.

R32 is responsible for the midscoop in this pedal. I'm gonna try something lower than 1M to make it sound less scooped. It will probably result in a little more ouput too.
R62 can suposedly be lowered to have more volume, I need to check this.
R57 can suposedly be altered to change the compressed feeling, but it will also affect the bass, I need to check this too.

This may have been mentioned, but doubling C33 will increase the gain and bass

C41 could be changed to a higher value to allow more bass frequencies to pass freely, altough it could result in muddy or musshy sound

C34 is now 10nF, the sound is more focused, less high frequency harshness but middle stays sharp and gritty...

A second general area for modding in a manner that creates big changes with minimal investment is likely the EQ section. The DS-2 uses what seems to be a fairly common treble boost-cut circuit, whose turnover frequency is set by what looks like C37 (the 6800pf cap tied to the wiper of the tone control). Swap that cap for something of a larger value (8200pf/.0082 to maybe .012 or.015uf) and the turnover frequency will drop proportionately. Make it smaller (.0056 to maybe .0033) and the turnover frequency will move upwards. Having a higher turnover frequency will mean that when you turn the tone down, it will round off the edges but leave more mid-bite, and turning it up will simply change the higher extremes but not affect the mids. Having a lower turnover frequency will mean that when you boost you will increase the mids a lot more in addition to the highe end, and when you turn down the sound will get much darker than it does now.

When Q10 is turned on, then it is like R32 is not there and the junction of R44/R33 goes to ground directly through the cap. C29 determines how much of the highs and mids come through. If you want more upper mids, then make it .01, if less, make it .0033. C21 determines where the low end of the scoop rolls off. It is around 720hz as shown. You can drop that if you increase C21 to .012 or .015, and raise it if you drop C21 to .0082 or .0068. Letting more upper mids and upper bass through will decrease the scoopiness."
You really only need to lift C21 to removed the notch.
Q10 actually switches the notch in and out ie. one of the modes doesn't have the notch in circuit.
Because the input impedance of Q12 is high R33, R44 and C28 are benign once C21 is removed.
Adjusting C29 is beyond the scope of the notch, that component modifies the voicing of highs - you can play around with that if you wish. Keep in mind the tone control is slightly asymmetrical anyway


http://www.lucacapozzi.com/200(...)ds-2/

sinon j'ai trouvée ce commentaire:
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The Boss DS2 is titled "Turbo Distortion" since it is essentially a DS1 with a turbo knob and remote input. The turbo setting is provided to provide a heavier distortion level that has been used by guitarists such as Kurt Cobain from Nirvana. Overall, it is a versatile distortin pedal that can be used for many applications, although mainly heavier rock.


Donc à tenter, toutes les modifs de DS1 déjà évoquée, suffit de comparer les schémas
VENTE A PERTE PEDALES ET BAFFLE HAUT DE GAMME

"J'ai l'impression que certains ici ne prennent pas la guitare assez au sérieux... J'en ai surpris en train de s'amuser... Dommage..." - Zepot

FAUVE ? "imiter Thierry Roland qui imite Grand corps malade, c'est pas donné a tout le monde" - Mia Wallace
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Kurt il n'utilisait pas le mode turbo II...
Elrond06
Tiens starfucker, je viens de visiter le site Nitrogen que tu as en signature... C'est toi qui roduit ces pédales?
Starfucker Inc.
on s'en fout il est mort, t'es pas obligé de tout faire comme lui
VENTE A PERTE PEDALES ET BAFFLE HAUT DE GAMME

"J'ai l'impression que certains ici ne prennent pas la guitare assez au sérieux... J'en ai surpris en train de s'amuser... Dommage..." - Zepot

FAUVE ? "imiter Thierry Roland qui imite Grand corps malade, c'est pas donné a tout le monde" - Mia Wallace
Starfucker Inc.
Elrond06 a écrit :
Tiens starfucker, je viens de visiter le site Nitrogen que tu as en signature... C'est toi qui roduit ces pédales?


du tout, c'est space jm du forum, mais je suis un fervent défenseur de son taf, je suis tombé amoureux de la N21, je voulais une fuzz factory en plus polyvalente et plus musicale, la N21 est idéale
VENTE A PERTE PEDALES ET BAFFLE HAUT DE GAMME

"J'ai l'impression que certains ici ne prennent pas la guitare assez au sérieux... J'en ai surpris en train de s'amuser... Dommage..." - Zepot

FAUVE ? "imiter Thierry Roland qui imite Grand corps malade, c'est pas donné a tout le monde" - Mia Wallace
Visualdistortion
Starfucker Inc. a écrit :
sinon j'ai trouvée ce commentaire:
Citation:
The Boss DS2 is titled "Turbo Distortion" since it is essentially a DS1 with a turbo knob and remote input. The turbo setting is provided to provide a heavier distortion level that has been used by guitarists such as Kurt Cobain from Nirvana. Overall, it is a versatile distortin pedal that can be used for many applications, although mainly heavier rock.


Donc à tenter, toutes les modifs de DS1 déjà évoquée, suffit de comparer les schémas


J'ai checker aprioris ça n'a pas vraiment la gueule
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Starfucker Inc. a écrit :
on s'en fout il est mort, t'es pas obligé de tout faire comme lui


Oh mais si, d'ailleurs j'ai même programmé ma mort.
Plus sérieusement je faisais juste de l'info c'est tout désolé...
Elrond06
Je suis pas fan des Fuzz, mais en effet çà a l'air d'être du bon boulot.. 200 euros quand même, mais bon, quand on voit ce que coûte au final une bonne pédale en DIY (surtout tout ce qui n'est pas electronique comme le boitier, les jacks, les switchs et autres potards et boutons divers) et le temps à passer dessus, c'est raisonnable...
A quand des mods de la N21?
Mr. dickhead
Visualdistortion a écrit :
Starfucker Inc. a écrit :
sinon j'ai trouvée ce commentaire:
Citation:
The Boss DS2 is titled "Turbo Distortion" since it is essentially a DS1 with a turbo knob and remote input. The turbo setting is provided to provide a heavier distortion level that has been used by guitarists such as Kurt Cobain from Nirvana. Overall, it is a versatile distortin pedal that can be used for many applications, although mainly heavier rock.


Donc à tenter, toutes les modifs de DS1 déjà évoquée, suffit de comparer les schémas


J'ai checker aprioris ça n'a pas vraiment la gueule


electroniquement, c'est absolument pas la meme chose, la ds1 est basé sur double AOP tandis que la DS2 incorpore toute une armée de transistors.
Visualdistortion
il existe un mod pour passer des boss ACA en PSA?

Sinon j'ai trouvé quelques explications

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Three basic rules about Boss pedals (and one exception):

* If it says "PSA" on the bottom (or on the sticker next to the adapter jack), use a 9 volt regulated supply.
* If it says "ACA" on the bottom, check if it's produced before or after 1997. The easiest way is to plug in the PSA adapter - if the LED lights up properly, it's most likely a post-1997 model, and will work with the regulated supply. It may still sound best from an ACA supply (9 volts, then), but the difference will be marginal at best. By the way, the only ACA pedals produced after 1997 are the SD-1, BF-2, GE-7, OC-2, DS-1, PH-2 and CS-3. Most of these will have PSA stickers these days, by the way.
* If it says "ACA" on the bottom, and the PSA adapter doesn't light up the LED properly (or the pedal isn't one of those listed above), it wants 12 volts unregulated power to work properly.
* Unless... you are using a daisy chain or power supply with common ground for all outputs (DC Brick, Cioks, PowerPad etc). In that case, the pedal will work with 9 volts, as long as there's a 'proper' 9 volt pedal in the chain with it. Some 12 volt ACA pedals will therefore actually work fine, as long as they are being fed via a daisy chain...

Easy, eh?
Doc Plus
Visualdistortion a écrit :
il existe un mod pour passer des boss ACA en PSA?


Yep, je l'ai faite sur ma GE7 japan. Tu dégages la diode (et la resistance) qui sert à réguler le courant. D'ailleurs c'est quoi la référence de cette diode ?
Ca serait surement intéressant de remettre une diode (1n4001 ?) pour protéger la pédale.
Vends Seymour Duncan SM-3 et Méca grover
Elrond06
Je me demandais pourquoi on ne trouvait pas le schema de la visual sound Jekyll&Hide, un best seller, facilement sur le net, et plus particulièrement chez GEOFEX qui est plutôt bien fourni, je pense avoir trouvé la réponse... sur le site de visual-sound :


Visual Sound staff:
R.G.Keen - Chief Engineer – following a 30 year career with IBM, R.G. brings a vast wealth of knowledge to VS for product development. Well know throughout the boutique and DIY communities for his http://www.geofex.com website, R.G. is known by many as the Godfather of Boutique.

Je comprend mieux. A ce sujet, ils indiquent sur le site que la Jekyll est une TS-808 modifiée déjà avec plus de niveau de sortie (exact) et une tonalité meilleure que l'originale. enfin c'est sûr qu'ils ne vont pas dire qu'elle a été modifiée pour être moins bonne.

En ce moment sur effet guitare...