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Mady_Roar
Doc Loco a écrit :
Iceman59 a écrit :
Et donc le combo 30 watt fait combien en euro d'apres vos estimation ? sa m'interesse grandement cette faire là :-D


Entre +/- 950 pour le 2x12" en HP "de base" (qui sonnent malgré tout très bien semble t'il) et 1350-1400 pour le 2x12" équippé de Celestions blue. Ceci restant une estimation.


Ok merci, j'avais mal compris au dessus c'est pour sa que je me suis permis de demander.
En tout cas sa a l'air alléchant, vivement qu'on puisse l'essayer en mag' ( puis le ramener chez sois :-D )
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    le 14 Avr 2005, 16:36
Complètement d'accord avec Buttshaker et le Doc.

Je rajouterais qu'on peut dire la même chose du Tonelab: c'est hyper bien pensé, les fonctionnalités sont vraiment celles dont on a besoin.
Là c'est pareil.
Dans les deux cas, les produits sont vraiment bien placés en tarif (contrairement aux handwired de chez Marshall, dommage!).

Bref, Korg/Vox m'impressionne énormément.
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Maxcreed
Ils livrent en France Musiciansfriends ???
J'vais lui montrer qui c'est Raoul. Aux quat' coins d'Paris qu'on va l'retrouver éparpillé par petits bouts, façon Puzzle. Moi, quand on m'en fait trop j'correctionne plus : j'dynamite, j'disperse, j'ventile.

T'en veux ?

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Plentyofsoul
contact anje il est aux states et il envoie du matos....suffit de le mp
Si il devait y avoir une chasse aux cons ici...y aurait du gibier !!
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    le 14 Avr 2005, 17:26
ouais enfin, Anje prend une commission, hein...
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Plentyofsoul
à ce que j'ai cru comprendre oui
Si il devait y avoir une chasse aux cons ici...y aurait du gibier !!
buttshaker
Arf l'avant-première européenne ça se paie !!!
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    le 14 Avr 2005, 17:34
donc autant acheter directement du magasin, tu économises la commission de Anje. Et puis, si anje te bousille ton matos, tu n'auras plus que tes yeux pour pleurer. En plus, tu ne sais pas comment il va emballer le tout, etc.
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Centaur
Je vais devoir m'en prendre un !

Je les ai vu au MusicMesse, ils sont tout beau mais le gars qui faiasaint les test essayait surtout les tonelabs ! Donc j'ai pas entendu la bête rugir !
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    le 14 Avr 2005, 18:04
tiens, j'ai trouvé un test du AC30CC:

http://www.thegearpage.net/boa(...)ber=6

Le mec le compare en direct avec un AC30 handwired reissue, et un V-tech qui est aussi une copie de AC30 manifestement.


"My Vox Ac30CC arrived today and I have been putting it through its paces. Let us start with the bad - the input jacks are pcb mounted (see pics below) and there are lots of ribbon cables which many object to. These some say are potential red flags for reliability. Also the verb is nice enough but not great, and the trem is respectable if not vast in range (it doesn't go that fast at all).

Now to the most important part. A/B/C ing with the Vox Hw and valvetech. The top boost channel is more aggressive than the hw, about as aggressive as the v-tech actually, perhaps a hair less so than the v-tech. The normal channel sounds exactly like my old nontb JMI head. The surprising part is that all 3 amps through a pair of silver bulldogs sound very closely related. All three of these amps are winners and anybody should be happy with any of these amps. What is surprising is how the cc nails the jangle and chime of the the old ac30's I've heard, and more aggresively than the HW. Further, the CC puts out more bass even before you link the inputs. In fact the CC has more low end response than any ac30 I have heard without sacrificing that top end jangle. The CC nails, and I mean nails any old Vox tone that I have had the pleasure to hear in the past. It does the top boost channel immaculately and the normal channel has a brilliant switch which allows you to emulate the 2 channels of a non tb Vox amp - and having owned one I am happy to report that this Vox does both as well as my old JMI non tb amp. The linkage knob works incredibly well and is magic in driving the amp into semi distorted land without using the master volume. This amp is the most versatile Vox amp you'll ever own and it nails every tone it claims to own. Further, this amp sounds more like a 60's Vox than Korg's own faithful recreation of the 60's AC30 and this surprised me greatly. You get 2 Voxes in 1 - a non tb and a tb ac30 at the click if the knob. I have gone through Matchlesses, Voxes, Bad Cats, Alessandros, etc etc you name it (if it has EL84's) I have played it.This amp sounds as good as any of them even at ear splitting volumes. It manages to have that rich harmonic swirly thing that happens when you hold a clean cord, even more so than my HW (by the way anyone want to buy a HW?). The CC betters my HW in pure tone if somewhat inferior in trem and verb - if it were not for the reliability question my HW would be for sale right away. In terms of pure tone I reluctantly have to give the edge to the CC and the V-tech amps (with the V-tech being a slightly more aggresive tone than the CC). The HW is close behind. Finally, the master volume on the CC is amongst the best I have heard - the kind of dirty, semi dirty and clean tones you can cop at low volumes are exceptional vox tones, simply amazing, with very little sacrifice. The CC distorts as a Vox should with that EL84 richness and grind that can get you that daytripper sound to full on cordal crunch that would make a zep fan happy, but even with the modern bias selected you do not get metal saturation, but with a tube driver in front you get awful close.

In short, should the CC prove to be reliable and durable it is the last word in Vox type tones. It rocks, it jangles, it swirls, it's only 850 US for the head. It's a no brainer. I love it. I had to pry myself away to write this for you. I would be happy to give more comments in a few days and will plan on posting clips within a week or so. I am smitten!"
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Doc Loco
Eh ben, ça confirme les avis sur Plexi Palace!
haslar
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    le 14 Avr 2005, 18:29
Par contre, il semble qu'au niveau robustesse, ça soit assez quelconque (tout est monté direct sur le PCB, à commencer par le jack).

A lire:


http://www.thegearpage.net/boa(...)C30CC

"Vox AC-30CCH Report from a regular guitar playing guy:

I played one of the new Vox amps today for enough time to form an opinion. It seems like some of the greatest interest in this amp is on this board so I am posting here. They said it was one the first 100 shipped to the U.S. They just got it on Friday and I was somewhat surprised to see them in person after waiting for their release for over a year. I literally bumped into it.

I played the head into the open back 2-12 with blues. They also had a combo with the new design speakers but I didn't try it.

Good Things:
First off, it sounded great. I was using a Les Paul with a humbucker and it sounded like what you would expect it to. As good or better than any ac30 I have ever played. I've never owned one, but have played the reissues and the ac15tbx a bit. I don't believe I have ever played an original 60's one. The master volume works perfectly. It is decent down to bedroom volumes and gets quite loud, of course. The new features they added like channel link seem to be of some use. Basically, I got really nice Voxy cleans and muscular midrangey Voxy crunch out of it with no trouble. It had quite a bit more gain than I thought it would, but it was no metal amp. It was a classic gain. I imagine it would sound great boosted. I was left thinking it would be a great club amp and no doubt they will sell a bunch of these for that application. Great for singer songwriter stuff, alt-country, indie rock.

Price was around $900 out the door. That was before any negotiation. I don't know if they would have moved on that price or not. The combo with the Chinese speakers was $150 or so more and the combo with blues was around $1600 but they didn't have one, that is just what the very helpful salesman said. He was cool and let me try it out all I wanted. In my defense I wasn't just messing around, I had the money in my pocket.

The cosmetics of it looked GREAT. I saw no obvious flaws in the workmanship. Tolex was good. The front grillcloth looked great. And the Vox logo looked wonderful. These will look great on stage and no one in the audience is going to be thinking "Oh that is a Chinese Vox". They will just see a nice looking - authentic looking - Vox. This particular one had a few scuffs probably because it had been to the Dallas Guitar show and back already in its short life. (I didn't play it at the show, I played it at a store.) It had a nice heft to it without being a backbreaker. There was no obvious cheapness to it.

Bad Things:
It was not as 3-D sounding as a Matchless. Maybe it would be a closer competitor with a set of good tubes. I couldn't tell what brand were in the amp through the top grill. IMO it will not be a Matchless/Badcat/Valvetech etc killer. The people who spent more on those amps will feel confident in their purchases especially because of the potential build quality issues, but also because of the sound. But I think people who do buy the CC's will be confident too, because they do sound good just not $2500 good. I know this is somewhat of an unfair comparison. But it is comparing a "real" Vox product with the other Vox descendents.

It had some hiss/hum with the volume cranked, not enough to make me worry excessively. But it is not going to be a dead quite amp.

The amp ran way hot. You could feel it cooking - it is a real Vox. You could smell it, but that is just part of new amp syndrone, I think. The heat bothered me a bit. I had visions of repairs in my head. Long time Vox guys probably won't flinch at this.

The reverb and trem only seem to operate with the footswitch. If they are off with the footswitch and the footswitch is elsewhere, as was the case, there is no way to turn them on. I didn't ask for the footswitch, therefore I didn't try reverb or tremolo. I believe they are both solid state driven so I wouldn't expect much from them anyway.

And the final straw - the brilliant switch on the Normal channel was not functioning. You could tell it was mechanically busted (not a connection problem). If the switch is on a PCB, that will be a pain to repair. I would not buy a brand new amp with any functional problem. It is not a huge deal, but it did make me go hmmm. I pointed out the switch problem to the salesman not be a jerk or get a discount, but so they would know about it. I don't know if it is going to get repaired or what. The other little switches seemed sturdy FWIW.

In the end I found it prudent to wait awhile and see how they are holding up before buying one. They are going to sell a lot of these, that much is clear.

It would not surprise me if these things are pretty reliable and it would not surprise me if they have some "issues". Time will tell. Unless there are absolute (numerous, verifiable) horror stories about these amps in the coming months, I will probably get one."
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haslar
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    le 14 Avr 2005, 18:37
Tiens, un site super intéressant avec plein de photos:
http://www.voxshowroom.com/nor(...).html

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    le 14 Avr 2005, 21:47
haslar a écrit :
ouais enfin, Anje prend une commission, hein...


oui, ca se comprends

sinon pour l'emballage pas de soucis, je renforce celui d'origine pour que ca passe l'atlantique en un seul morceau, j'ai l'habitude des envois


pour en revenir au CC, j'espere bien pouvoir aller en tester un en mag d'ici peu, mais ils sont pour la plupart en rupture de stock actuellement
vais devoir me consoler avec un autre en attendant

en passant non Musicansfriend n'envoie pas en Europe
Pour tout fondu de son, entre autre de bon vieux son :-) : http://anjeanje.free.fr/OldHeaven/
(historique Marshall, fonctionnement des lampes...)
Mr Green
au fait anje ca coute la peau des fesses de faire envoyé du matos des states, tu passe par quoi ?
je commence a croire que je suis un americain refoulé

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